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  • 1.  Norm in the industry with billing companies

    Posted 02-10-2020 14:48

    I am trying to understand the norm in the industry:

    If a billing company receives from Medicare:  Can't ID the patient:

    Is the norm in the industry to just text or send a bill to the patient that Medicare can't ID them, or is it to look in the hospital system and correct the information on file with what the hospital has?

     

    Thanks for the feedback.

     

    Gayle

     

     

     

    Gayle Schreier, MBA

    Business Manager
    Roper Radiologists, PA
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    Charleston, SC  29401
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  • 2.  RE: Norm in the industry with billing companies

    Posted 02-10-2020 15:00

    My opinion, absolutely not.   A quick search of the region's MAC eligibility website or other websites that may be available geographically to identify Medicare Advantage coverage should be a first round review by a billing company.  Then a quick look into the hospitals IS should provide them the info they need.    Billing companies know there's an demographic problem even before the bill even gets to Medicare due to electronic filing and accompanying front end edits.   Volumes come into play and so does who's paying for postage, but on a high level, sending statements to Medicare patients to clarify coverage is not a best practice, thanks!

     

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  • 3.  RE: Norm in the industry with billing companies

    Posted 02-10-2020 15:02

    We always try and look in the patient records to see if we got something wrong [either we transposed a digit or the facility sent us bad info), if that doesn't work, we try to the Medicare carrier portal to pull the info if we have the SSN  or we call the ordering providers office for assistance, and if all else fails we will call the patient and explain the situation.

    The last very last step we would take would be mailing a statement/note to the patient asking for a copy of the card or for them to contact us.

     

     

     

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  • 4.  RE: Norm in the industry with billing companies

    Posted 02-10-2020 15:09
    We look in the hospital systems, one of which provides access to scanned insurance cards and other information. It's time consuming, but is usually worth the effort vs billing the patient.





  • 5.  RE: Norm in the industry with billing companies

    Posted 02-11-2020 11:52

    Hi Gayle,

     

    Over the years the 'norm' has changed.  At one point, yes, billing companies would look up the information online, call to an insurance IVR or check with the hospital, facility or referring  physician.  Now, you will find different levels of service depending on the billing company and/or your agreement with them.  The billing company may have over automation implemented so when a denial comes back as can't id, the system automatically changes to patient responsibility and starts the statement cycle.  The problem with this is when the statement cycle is finished, the patient is often turned over to collections if they did not contact the billing company.  Again, this is due to automation.

     

    It is important to use automation but there needs to be human involvement to ensure accuracy and issues such as the one you are experiencing don't slip through the cracks.  You should expect on government payors, at least, that the billing company does additional research before requesting the information from the patient.

     

    Many billing companies understand this need and will have tools built into their automation including humans to ensure your patients are taken care of.  For example, we routinely check payor websites any time we receive a denial for can't id.  It is not uncommon to check with the hospital or facility as well.

     

    I hope this helps!

    Sara

     


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  • 6.  RE: Norm in the industry with billing companies

    Posted 02-11-2020 19:04

    In my experience, some companies do what she is suggesting below but some go the extra step. When your billing company uses offshore resources for almost all of their work you will find that their service level is typically low due to a low commitment to working denials. A good billing company will access the hospital's system and work eligibility denials. It is also about managing the lag time for demographics, to ensure you have the most up to date eligibility information from the hospital.  Let me know if you want to discuss specific vendors offline.

     

    John

     

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  • 7.  RE: Norm in the industry with billing companies

    Posted 03-11-2020 17:44

    Gayle,

     

    The norm in the industry is to work follow-up of denied claims [for reasons like "Cannot ID the patient"] a variety of different ways. Whether the way in which your RCM partner conducts its follow-up efforts meets your expectations is an entirely different matter. Industry follow-up methods and protocols vary greatly.

     

    I think a more impactful and strategic approach to follow-up is to eliminate the need for follow-up. Ben Franklin's axiom that "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure" could not be more appropriate than in the world of medical claims denial and reject management. I know firsthand. I spent 15 years as a healthcare consultant and "inside" revenue cycle manager to the imaging world prior to moving to a 3rd-party independent RCM company, and I struggled with such concerns every day. 

     

    Preventing denials and rejects will provide your practice the greatest return. There is always revenue loss associated with denied and rejected claims. Follow-up methods and practices vary. You get what you pay for. If your follow-up expectations do not match with your RCM partner's, there could be significant underperformance.

     

    On the other hand, if you work to prevent denials and rejects, and your efforts provide fruitful, you will see significant improvement in collections. There are a number of ways to reduce denials and rejects beginning with a regular review of their source. If you have not already done so, request a regular report of denied and rejected claims (number and charge value). Assess the root cause of the most costly denials. Devise a plan with your hospital and RCM partner to materially reduce or eliminate those denials. You should identify trends of breakdowns and work with your RCM partner to prevent and eliminate the breakdowns. A place to start is with physician dictation reviews and compliant dictation training & denial prevention. Create custom billing rules, specific to your practice. Perform automated billing history reviews and eligibility checks where possible. Bidirectional communication with the billing company is necessary when additional details are needed. All of these actions are designed to prevent denials and rejects from happening so that you do not need to be overly concerned about the "practice of follow-up".

     

    Not all denials and rejects can be prevented. Work together to set follow-up expectations – custom plans if you will. Set expectations, when denials are received, you expect they aggressively work them. For instance, coding denials are only worked by coding staff. AR needs a personal touch assisted by advanced technology. Ensure that they query and review payer policies and hospital information systems, secure additional documentation, and call payers for additional details when necessary to successfully adjudicate the denied claims.

     

    I would welcome the opportunity to share more with you or at the very least network with you.

     

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    Senior Vice President, Client Services and Business Development

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  • 8.  RE: Norm in the industry with billing companies

    Posted 03-12-2020 10:19
    I agree with Gayle, preventing denials is the key.  Good in, Good out, and vice versa.

    We realized a long time ago that we were spending too much time and effort trying to fix problems on the back end and that reallocing these resources to sending out clean claims is the key.   Most RCM companies simply send out the claim info they receive from the practice and then send detail info back to the practice to clean it up before re-submitting.

    Over the years we found that these steps help us greatly reduce the number of denials we see:

    • Pre-Authorization - Validating & confirming 100% of pre-auths 
    • Benefit Verification - Verifying 100% of our patients have current benefits
    • Demographic Verification - Verifying & correcting 100% of demographics on claims prior to submitting

    We worked with our RCM partner to add these services on an a la carte method in addition to our base billing charges.

    In the race to find the "cheapest" billing service, our industry has driven the RCM world to reduced their services or just deliver lower quality service. By spending a little more up front, we've seen wonderful results on the back end resulting in a net increase in profits.

    I'd be happy to discuss in more details with anyone.

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    Raul Arizpe
    Desert Imaging
    El Paso TX
    (915) 577-0100
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