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  • 1.  CT Urogram at Imaging Center

    Posted 03-15-2019 09:45
    I've just started coding/billing for an Imaging Center. It is owned by the hospital.  I've noticed when I see orders for "CT Ur​ogram" from the referring MD, the imaging center enters it as CT abd and pelvis without and with contrast.
    I've been reading the ordering rules, and just want to make sure this is ok. 
    I don't want to over look it if we need to address this with them.
    Thank you


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    [Hulah] [Gorby] [CPC, CPMA]
    [Coding Supervisor]
    [Custom Data Services, Inc]
    [Merrillville] [IN]
    [219-769-1670]
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  • 2.  RE: CT Urogram at Imaging Center

    Posted 03-15-2019 09:55
    Yes, sometimes our hospital orders a CT urogram and sometimes a CT abd pel w and wo contrast.  Both are coded as a CPT 74178. 

    If you are new to coding, there are a lot of coding resources offered by the RBMA.  Please check the website.  Also, there are a lot of RBMA vendors that offer training, reading materials, and guidance. 

    Please contact me via email or at 417-894-0878 if you have any questions. Thanks and have a wonderful day. 

    Jay Smith, CPA, MBA 
    Executive Director
    Litton & Giddings Radiological Associates, P.C. 
    P.O. Box 14049
    Springfield, MO 65814 

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  • 3.  RE: CT Urogram at Imaging Center

    Posted 03-15-2019 10:06

    "CT Urogram" really shouldn't be an ordering option.  Everyone, from the ordering physician to the tech to the radiologist should be using the proper terminology for what is actually wanted and being done.  CT urogram is a protocol and not CPT terminology.  And different facilities have different protocols for what they consider CT urogram.

    You also need to clarify the facility's protocol.  I see places billing a "with contrast" CT when the only contrast given is through a bladder catheter, not IV.

    If everybody insists on using the protocol terminology then you should have a written policy stating what your facility's protocol is, have everybody sign it, and never vary from it.

     

    Here's what the AMA and ACR say in Clinical Examples in Radiology, Spring 2018:

    The Spring 2007 issue of Clinical Examples in Radiology states, "The use of the term CT urogram in the report is misleading. CT codes were developed to be anatomic-site specific; therefore, physicians are urged to use the proper nomenclature in their reports when describing the procedures performed. Because CT studies are previewed and tailored to the clinical indications at hand, the reporting of such studies termed as CT urography, CT cystography, or CT enterography will vary from practice to practice. Protocols will stipulate what anatomical areas need to be imaged in order to answer the clinical question at hand." In the case of a CT urogram protocol that uses pre- and post-intravenous contrast imaging of both the abdomen and pelvis, an example of a procedure description that would adequately capture the relevant clinical information for coding purposes would be "CT scan of the abdomen and pelvis was performed before and after the administration of IV contrast material."

     

    Donna Richmond, BA, RCC, CIRCC, CPC
    Senior Healthcare Consultant

    P 651-424-4225  / C 337-412-2272
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  • 4.  RE: CT Urogram at Imaging Center

    Posted 03-15-2019 10:29
    Hulah,

    I should have added that our coders do not code based on the title of the exam ordered.  They only code based on what is dictated in the actual report.  

    However, our PACS system sometimes has the title of CT urogram and sometimes it comes across as CT abd pel w and wo depending upon how it was originally ordered. 

    Please contact me via email or at 417-894-0878 if you have any questions. Thanks and have a wonderful day. 

    Jay Smith, CPA, MBA 
    Executive Director
    Litton & Giddings Radiological Associates, P.C. 
    P.O. Box 14049
    Springfield, MO 65814 

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    On Friday, March 15, 2019, 8:54:28 AM CDT, Jay Smith <jayradiology@sbcglobal.net> wrote:


    Yes, sometimes our hospital orders a CT urogram and sometimes a CT abd pel w and wo contrast.  Both are coded as a CPT 74178. 

    If you are new to coding, there are a lot of coding resources offered by the RBMA.  Please check the website.  Also, there are a lot of RBMA vendors that offer training, reading materials, and guidance. 

    Please contact me via email or at 417-894-0878 if you have any questions. Thanks and have a wonderful day. 

    Jay Smith, CPA, MBA 
    Executive Director
    Litton & Giddings Radiological Associates, P.C. 
    P.O. Box 14049
    Springfield, MO 65814 

    All information contained in this email is confidential (and may include Protected Health Information - PHI), belonging to the sender who is legally and/or medically privileged. The information is intended only for the use of the recipient named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or taking of any action based on the contents of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify us and destroy the document immediately.