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  • 1.  OP Radiology Consultation in the Hospital Setting

    Posted 07-14-2023 12:20

    Happy Friday Forum-

     

    This is a topic covered in years past, but I'm unable to locate responses to current questions re: the potential of rental space in the hospital setting for radiology consultative services relative to OP procedure work... and ramifications of such an arrangement. The current OP imaging office setting where IR consultations and F/U's were performed is closing and the rads are seeking a new way to deliver these services for IR/neuro IR procedural patients. Hoping knowledgeable RBMA members can assist in avoiding pitfalls such as Stark violation. As I recall rental amounts paid the hospital are FMV.

     

    1. Are these patient visits in the hospital setting billable to the insurance carriers? If so, what additional billing info would be required for documentation?
    2. Is there simply a reimbursement difference similar to which provider (APP vs radiologist) sees the patient in consultation... similar to the billing differences for procedures themselves?

     

    Any information is welcome and I'm happy to speak off line if that's preferable. Thanks!-Laurie

     

    Laurie Billington BS., RT(R)(M)

    Strategic Administration & Reimbursement Services, LLC

    (A wholly owned subsidiary of Advanced Radiology Services, PC)

    3400 N Center Rd, Suite 400 | Saginaw, MI 48603

    Ph: 989-753-9000 ext:106 | lbillington@starsadmin.com

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  • 2.  RE: OP Radiology Consultation in the Hospital Setting

    Posted 07-14-2023 13:53

    Hi Laurie

     

    We do OP consults in the hospital setting, but we don't pay rent.  The hospital registers the patients, provides the support staff and supplies, and charges a facility fee, and it's no different than a procedure done in the hospital.  We bill POS 22 (could be 19 if off campus).  Now that's a terrible deal for patients, because the facility fee is typically a few hundred dollars on top of the docs consult fee.

     

    Alternatively, you could possibly lease space from the hospital or someone else, pay FMV, and provide the staff, systems, etc. to run the clinic, in which case you would bill POS 11.  We also sublease space from another physician group for some of our IR consults, provide the staff, systems, etc., and bill POS 11.

     

    The POS will drive reimbursement.  POS 11, you will get the higher non-facility rate.  POS 19 or 22 is the lower facility rate, which includes no allowance for clinical space, staff, supplies or equipment.  Also, patients often have less out of pocket in POS 11.

     

    The lawyers can weigh in more authoritatively, but I don't believe Stark is a significant consideration since no Designated Health Services are directly involved.  If you're using space provided by a potential referral partner, you probably want to stay in an anti-kickback safe harbor, so FMV and a written agreement with at least a one year term would be important, among other things, if anything of value is changing hands.

     

    Hope this helps.

     

    Dave

     

     

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  • 3.  RE: OP Radiology Consultation in the Hospital Setting

    Posted 07-14-2023 15:23

    Perfect! Thank you David for sharing this information so thoroughly!

     

    The RBMA forum is such a valuable resource to members...have a good weekend everyone!-Laurie

     






  • 4.  RE: OP Radiology Consultation in the Hospital Setting

    Posted 08-08-2023 13:18

    Hi David-

    In the first paragraph you refer to the hospital providing support staff and supplies and billing a facility fee....for clarification it is still the IR radiologist or the APP (NP or PA-C) that performs the consultation, correct? The rad group is still able to bill the POS 22 for the visit and the hospital bills the facility fee even though there is no facility rent being paid to the hospital?

    Thanks-Laurie



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